Verbal warfare through radical ideals

The Lonely Grave of Sacerdotus


Deep in the bowels of the Twitterverse, there lurks a creature of ridiculous nature.

This poor soul is known simply as “Sacerdotus”, and is a self-proclaimed future priest/Twitter user. For those of us who know him, Sac has made himself known by a multitude of tweets and propaganda designed to demonize atheists. He has also made numerous claims that he is inclined to a civilized debate, but any and all attempts to organize one have been in vain. Though various offers for debate still stand for this “prepared contender”, Sacerdotus’ popularity ironically stems from his ability to avoid all requests made by atheists who challenge him.

This, along with his usual list of pre-made logical fallacies has earned him quite the reputation as a dishonest debate partner. Let’s take a deeper look into why no one should ever take Sacerdotus seriously, shall we?

Every time someone brings up the topic of his faith, he takes painstaking efforts to claim that he, himself was an atheist once. Ironically, his conversion story is as dull as it is implausible. Throughout the tale, Sac shows how clever one must be when weaving a tale of inspirational change. Peppered generously between the lines of the tale are popular, stereotypical atheist lines that are used only by the most incompetent of godless ranters. He then explains what brought him to Catholicism, exposing his past for what it actually was.

 I read up on them, got a catechism and read it, etc. I loved how the Catechism is set up with citations and explanations of why Catholics believe.

With a quote like the one above, it’s amusing that anyone could buy such a shamelessly invented story. We’re supposed to believe that while he couldn’t see an iota of logic from any other religion on the planet, the one that dresses up in the most absurd clothing and participates in some of the silliest rituals in existence is the ideology that brought him in contact with “god”. Just thinking about how many times he had to repeat that to himself for it to sound reasonable, makes my head hurt. Had he ended this idiocy here, his credibility might have been salvageable. Unfortunately, his determination to make others believe he was actually an atheist led him to construct a final part to his transformation, which is a magical adventure for the whole family.

However, I never stepped foot in a Catholic building.  This came way after when this random lady approached me and called me “father.”   I was dressed like an urban youth from NYC and she called me “father” and asked me to pray for her daughter.  This just sent chills through my spine.  I did not know what to say only that I wasn’t a “father” but nonetheless went to the Church nearby with her and we prayed – or she did because I did not know the words she was using.  But I did do something mentally and basically said, “Ok mister sky inter-dimensional entity, this is your chance, stop hiding.”

I felt this peace like the peace a child feels when he/she is in his/her mother’s arms – nothing matters anymore, no worries, no stresses, just this never ending peace that fills you inside and you literally feel like you’re glowing.  That’s when I realized that there is something about this God stuff that is for real.  I was not “stimulated” by emotions, music or a social gathering as with the Evangelicals.  I was with this lady in a dark empty Catholic building, no music, just the random car horns from traffic outside echoing.  God made the move.

To add to to the “chills,” the lady stepped to the vestibule to get “holy water” and I went after her a few seconds later to ask her name and observe this act and she was not there.  I stepped outside and no one was around.  Either she ran like Flash or was transported to the Enterprise because she just vanished.  I know she did not leave because I would’ve seen the sunlight enter as the front door opened, but no such thing happened.  Those doors were the only exit and entrance.

Well, that just settles it. Only a true, skeptical atheist would come up with a story as rational as this one. I can’t imagine how unsettling it must’ve been for Sac to find out that the old lady was actually Batman. He also takes the time to explain to the reader that, “I would’ve seen the sunlight enter as the front door opened“. Checkmate, atheists. His powers of observation are not to be questioned, nor shall you analyze whether or not any of this garbage happened at all.

It is funny though, that for being a former atheist, Sacerdotus seemingly comes up dry when talking to other atheists. Common sense would dictate that if he was such a strong disbeliever, it would take a mind as great as his in order to convince other atheists why his religion is the right way. Tragically, he seems to be just as clueless as any other theist on Twitter. If Sacerdotus was an actual atheist at one point, he would be more than capable of showing compassion towards the perspective of other atheists, not to mention be able to empathize with the views we hold, as he would’ve shared them originally. Ironically, he has only ever argued like an indoctrinated creationist, and therefore I’d have to say the notion that he was ever an atheist is hereby debunked.

As for him pining away for an honest debate, I’ve yet to see any proof of that. He has a wonderful track record of tactical evasion when it comes to debate requests. An ever growing list of excuses grows by the day as to why he won’t go anywhere but his own webpage. Worst of all, is that he is in denial about it. He wants everything to go his way, to prevent any incidents that might be out of his control from occurring. When asked repeatedly to select any other site than his own for a debate, he has refused every offer; immediately followed by a request of his own to go to his website out of some misguided notion that it’s not fair to him to speak anywhere else. Even when asked objectively to debate somewhere neutral to both parties, he deflects the question and tries to assert without knowledge that it would be unfair, such as when asked by this person:

As you can see, he has clearly evaded the point of the question itself. Even without knowing WHAT forum the person was talking about, he has already dismissed it as not neutral. Only a person who is afraid to tread outside their comfort zone could possibly be this paranoid about the setting of a debate before even being offered a place.

Even when he does engage someone with a point, Sacerdotus is not known for his willingness to accept facts. He’s not even willing to incorporate other people’s opinions, for that matter. Unfailingly, the overwhelming majority of URLs and “evidence” he has to provide are simply links back to his blog. Why? Because he wants hits, and the only way to accomplish this is to drag people to his page, in the hopes that they’ll see something there that makes some sense, and return. He has sunk to this trick so often now, that ALL of his links return to his pages, where he recycles the same posts incessantly. This charade is meant to promote the idea that he has done his homework, and prevent him from stumbling over his own arguments. If he doesn’t have to repeat a lie, he assumes he’ll never get caught in one. Unfortunately, if you have a webpage designed to tell people why others are “afraid to debate you”, you’ve already exposed yourself as spineless:

http://www.sacerdotus.com/2013/02/the-fear-to-debate-me.html

What have we learned from this? Well, you should probably not call yourself an avid debater if you’re so quick to deny an invitation to every fuckin’ debate you’re offered, especially if you’re given the choice of going anywhere except your own website. Secondly, claiming you once represented the demographic of the people you are debating is not an effective tool for argument if you only know how to argue from the side you “converted” to. As an atheist, I am insulted and disgusted by the way Sacerdotus throws out one-liners and catchphrases designed to make himself seem well-articulated when discussing atheism. All he has ever proven is that he sounds like a resentful single on the ChristianMingle dating site. Exhausted, defeated, and grasping at straws, he has made every conscious effort to point the finger at everyone else for not wanting to play by his rules. Quite possibly most embarrassing, is his inability to provide any evidence that he hasn’t already touched. Even the least skillful opponents of atheism know that you should at least include some sort of third-party source of information to back up their claims. Sacerdotus refuses to do this. All of his links are his, and he will take you to his site to show you his claims, and back them up using links to his website to show more claims, that link to other pages of his information. Seeing a pattern? This doesn’t make him a scholar, or a researcher.

This makes him an overt narcissist.

I don’t owe any respect to this cretin. He is the worst type of person to argue with, but more importantly he is the person least likely to give you any sort of sliver of useful knowledge. When he is recruiting, he is obnoxious and loud. When he is debating, he is dishonest and evasive. When he is defensive, he is malicious and a hypocrite. If you don’t know Sacerdotus, you’re fortunate. For the rest of us, he is a constant reminder that all it takes to garner support for religion is volume, belligerence, and repetition.

Since Sacerdotus will undoubtedly never admit to any of this, and will oppose any idea that comes his direction by showing you another link to his website, I encourage people to link him here. Repeatedly, in fact. Maybe for once, looking at a single webpage all the time will grant him some clarity, rather than feed into his constant vacuum of egoism.

-Jake

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39 responses

  1. Is this the same unemployed and unemployable @Sacerdotus who, as Manuel de Dios Agosto, entered St Joseph’s Seminary, New York soon after leaving Grace H Dodge Faith School, Bronx, shortly before 2003 (as recorded here (archived 2003)) and was expelled soon after with another seminarian because of their behaviour? Is it the same @Sacerdotus who, as @NYLATINO2011 boast about his homosexual activities and work as a male prostitute? Is it the same @Sacerdotus who, as @BronxBomber777 used to post explicit sexual threats and threats of violence on Twitter until the account was taken down and all his other accounts were suspended? Is it the same @Sacerdotus who set up several impersonation accounts on Twitter to post explicitly sexual tweets purporting to be from @RosaRubicondior and other people who had exposed his psychotic fantasies and who was only allowed back on Twitter when he gave assurances that his behaviour would improve? And is it the same @Sacerdotus who regularly sets up new accounts such as @stjohnsmith to RT his tweets to make it look like someone else agrees with him when he posts abuse about other people?

    March 29, 2013 at 5:46 AM

    • Keep incriminating yourself Rosa.

      127- Improper use of public electronic communications network

      (1)A person is guilty of an offence if he—

      (a)sends by means of a public electronic communications network a message or other matter that is grossly offensive or of an indecent, obscene or menacing character; or

      (b)causes any such message or matter to be so sent.

      (2)A person is guilty of an offence if, for the purpose of causing annoyance, inconvenience or needless anxiety to another, he—

      (a)sends by means of a public electronic communications network, a message that he knows to be false,

      (b)causes such a message to be sent; or

      (c)persistently makes use of a public electronic communications network.

      (3)A person guilty of an offence under this section shall be liable, on summary conviction, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding six months or to a fine not exceeding level 5 on the standard scale, or to both.

      (4)Subsections (1) and (2) do not apply to anything done in the course of providing a programme service (within the meaning of the Broadcasting Act 1990 (c. 42)). (Communications Act 2003)

      March 29, 2013 at 6:39 PM

      • You forgot to mention ‘The UK Authorities’ to whom you frequently claim to be sending reports about my ‘terrorist activities’ as reported by your numerous ‘contacts’ who are watching my house and monitoring my movements for you.

        Are you suffering from amnesia, Manuel, or is there some other disorder of a personality / neuro-physiological nature going on in your head?

        April 1, 2013 at 12:17 PM

    • Stop pretending David. You and “sac” are the same guy suckering people into a fake debate in order to bring hits to your blogs to make money. http://studiousatheist.wordpress.com/2014/07/04/fraud-rosa-rubicondior-suckers-atheists/

      August 25, 2014 at 7:35 PM

  2. I’ve, luckily, never come across this guy before now. I’d click the link you posted, buuuuuuut it seems like more hits on his site would only encourage him, so I am now inclined to never go there. 🙂

    March 29, 2013 at 1:51 PM

  3. This post is funny. I see you are riding my star dust in order to gain more hits. 🙂

    However, I am disturbed at the abuse of a child that is taking place here. I don’t care what people say of me, but when one posts the full name and information of a child online, then there is serious legal consequence.

    I’m glad Rosa Rubicondior is providing further evidence of her abuse of a child from the Bronx who she thinks is me. I invite you all to contact St. Joseph’s Seminary and ask for this Manuel or me, Sacerdotus. You will not get any information for 2 reasons:

    1) I never went there. The place I am at knows me as Sacerdotus.
    2) Manuel is a high school student and seminaries require a 4 year college degree.

    It is sad that Rubicondior would resort to abusing a minor online without verifying the information. This child has nothing to do with any of us and does not deserve to have his business posted on sites especially in an age where stalkers track down and attack children.

    Notice that this article that is archived has no mention of me Sacerdotus. Only an idiot would google random names and link them together as the same person. This is poor detective work.

    In any even, the authorities, both American and UK authorities are aware of this.

    Here is the explanation of how Rosa came about with this information and why it is being investigated. I have reported this page to the FBI and NYPD. Under the law, I have to report any child abuse.

    http://www.sacerdotus.com/2013/02/why-is-rubicondior-afraid-to-debate-me.html

    March 29, 2013 at 5:24 PM

  4. Think about it. If someone randomly says that you are some kid in another state and those kid’s parents call the cops. Don’t you think the cops will come to you to investigate? Don’t be so naive. This is why I reported this blog to them so they are aware of Rosa’s abuse and her accomplices.

    March 29, 2013 at 7:28 PM

    • Actually if you aren’t Manuel, it shouldn’t affect you so much. I didn’t call the cops when you continually called me Rosa…? You give yourself away by reacting to it. You prove us right. #Dunce

      April 6, 2013 at 12:32 AM

      • Actually if you aren’t Manuel, it shouldn’t affect you so much. I didn’t call the cops when you continually called me Rosa…? You give yourself away by reacting to it. You prove us right. #Dunce

        PS: “Child abusers often get a high off of the power they sense in abusing a child.” Speaking from experience, Manuel?

        April 6, 2013 at 12:35 AM

      • You don’t understand. This is a child we’re talking about. Why does Rosa have to pick a random kid to abuse when I’m here and Rosa can message me on twitter??? It makes no sense. Why would Rosa put herself in trouble? You can’t just take a minor’s private information, full name and post it online. It’s illegal.

        April 7, 2013 at 1:36 AM

      • Can you prove this kid is not a minor?

        April 7, 2013 at 1:46 AM

      • How do you know this? Do you have records from the school or are you just believing what Rosa posted? Don’t be stupid.

        April 7, 2013 at 2:03 AM

      • Again, let me write it slowly: How………. do……..you….. know……..this??? DO…………… YOU…………have………….records……………from……….the…….school…………or………..are………….you………..just…………. believing…………..what…………..Rosa…………..posted?????????

        In other words, can you prove this kid is NOT a kid and that in fact this kid went to this school in the years mentioned?

        Can you also show proof that this kid was in this seminary and was released?

        If you and Rosa cannot, then boy are you guys in trouble….

        April 7, 2013 at 2:13 AM

      • Again, show EVIDENCE OF THIS…. What is it you do not understand???? Just like Trump asked for a birth certificate, we all want to see Rosa’s proof. A news article is not proof.

        April 7, 2013 at 2:39 AM

      • All you have given are lame claims, no documentation. I have proof that Rosa is fabricating this.

        April 7, 2013 at 3:03 AM

  5. Looks like @shogunofsin is in a lonely twitter grave. 🙂 One down, more to go! Good always triumphs over stupidity.

    May 10, 2013 at 11:22 PM

  6. Don’t be silly. The suspension is just the beginning. 🙂 More suspensions and blog deletions are coming. Rosa’s defensive stance shows he is weak and needs to resort to these lies in order to distract. That is indeed hilarious. Moreover, the paranoia of you and Rosa believing every correspondence on twitter or blogs originates from me shows you both are having a mental breakdown. awww 😦

    BOO! Just kidding 🙂

    May 11, 2013 at 5:57 PM

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